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		<title>Six months in –you know it had to happen - Greg falls victim to street crime.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Newman</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep we all knew it would eventually happen, unfortunately i never imagined it would happen quite like this&#8230;..
You see rather than being violently assaulted by some gun toting maniac, Greg was back in London arranging shipping of the last bits of our belongings over here to Sao Paulo!!!
He was staying near Clapham Common with Carey [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;  Normal 0     false false false  EN-GB X-NONE X-NONE                           &lt;![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;                                                                                                                                            &lt;![endif]-->Yep we all knew it would eventually happen, unfortunately i never imagined it would happen quite like this&#8230;..</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You see rather than being violently assaulted by some gun toting maniac, Greg was back in London arranging shipping of the last bits of our belongings over here to Sao Paulo!!!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">He was staying near Clapham Common with Carey and Lou (thanks dudes!) when some dodgy crack head swindled him out of his pocket change using the age old trick of asking for change for the phone.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Though he only got away with about five pounds (and Greg feeling more than a little embarrased), the irony of being &#8220;robbed&#8221; in London after travelling around South America and living in Sao Paulo for six months was certainly pretty funny!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Though the statistical chances of being a victim of crime are definitely higher in Brazil, that’s possibly not the whole story. <span> </span>For example according to Wikipedia (the Brazilian government doesn’t release crime statistics) last year Brazil had 24 murders per 100,000 residents, New Zealand had 1.2 murders per 100,000 people, Australia 1.53 and the UK 2.03. So there is no doubt that there is more crime in Brazil, but i don’t think that its spread as equally across the community in Brazil as it is at home.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In Brazil from what we have picked up from watching TV and in the print media the majority of crime happens in the poorest parts of the country. The slums/favelas that surround most of the cities in Brazil are effectively un-policed, a combination of local gang control, police corruption and a simple lack of police resources means that the poorest people in Brazil have no real recourse to legal protection.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It is interesting to note that New Zealand has one of the highest numbers of reported crimes of any country in the world. <span> </span>Kiwis reported 12,000 crimes per 100,000 people according to the latest statistics on <strong><a href="http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html">maps of the world</a> </strong>coming in third after Iceland and Sweden.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Possibly due to a lack of faith in the police forces of Brazil and the fact that crime statistics are rarely if ever reported one Brazilian professor has created a website allowing people to record details of the crimes they have fallen victim too, you can see these anecdotal crimes here on <strong><span> </span><a href="http://www.wikicrimes.org/">wiki crimes.</a></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So we are glad to say Greg is now safely back in Sao Paulo!</p>
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		<title>all quiet on the western front&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey folks,
I know its been a while, but things are a bit quiet here in sunny Sao Paulo at the moment. Winter has set in - sometmes it barely gets to 20 degrees during the day - but we are just surviving.
Our initial six months in SP is almost up, but we are having so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Hey folks,</p>
<p>I know its been a while, but things are a bit quiet here in sunny Sao Paulo at the moment. Winter has set in - sometmes it barely gets to 20 degrees during the day - but we are just surviving.</p>
<p>Our initial six months in SP is almost up, but we are having so much fun in Brasil we have decided to extend for another year or two (but really anymore than a year is virtually forever right)!!</p>
<p>So we are going through the process of getting properly set up, finding a bigger apartment (with room for visitors), shipping all of our stuff over from england, buying a car, getting our portuguese up to scratch and getting Greg a real job.</p>
<p>Unfortunately all of this stuff (as well as Greg trying to get his book finished) means that theres not many adventures going on at the moment, so please bear with us..</p>
<p>The good news is that as we are staying longer, you now have another great reason to come and visit us in sunny Sao Paulo!!!</p>
<p>Also from November Qantas are going to start offering direct flights from Sydney to Buenos Aires - which is only three hours from Sao Paulo, aparently they offer cheap flights initially to get deman up - so start booking folks!</p>
<p>So watch this space, we will put up some information on our house hunting adventures as there is lots of people searching for information on setting up house in Sao Paulo. In the meantime i would suggest looking on <a title="Gringoes" href="http://www.gringoes.com/forum/default.asp" target="_blank">http://www.gringoes.com/forum/default.asp</a> where there is lots of good information on living in Brasil and Sao Paulo.</p>
<p>Hope all is well with you all!</p>
<p>Have fun</p>
<p>greg and cath</p>
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		<title>Living in Sao Paulo, it&#8217;s just like living in any other large city in the world except:</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Newman</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Continuing my random list of the differences we have noticed between Sao Paulo and other large cities in the world:
1 Complete strangers want to know your personal details. 
For example, today I was talking to a real estate agent (don&#8217;t worry they are scum bags here as well), after the formalities of swapping names and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Continuing my random list of the differences we have noticed between Sao Paulo and other large cities in the world:</p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:54pt;text-indent:-36pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>1<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><strong>Complete strangers want to know your personal details. </strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54pt;">For example, today I was talking to a real estate agent (don&#8217;t worry they are scum bags here as well), after the formalities of swapping names and polite chit chat, he asked if<em> I was married?</em> – To which I said I was, he then asked <em>do you have kids yet?</em> Not just did we have kids, but did we have kids <em>yet</em>? I said no, to which he replied <em>well maybe you have not been married very long? </em>I told him it&#8217;s been four years, he gave me a sad look – obviously that means we must be having <em>troubles</em>!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54pt;">Brazilians have a different idea of polite conversation – especially to the English, no one in England would dare ask if you had kids – I am not sure why, but it&#8217;s just not considered polite conversation, but here in Brazil it&#8217;s a totally normal conversation, we have been asked by people at work, waiters, taxi drivers, just about everyone who can speak English will ask drop these questions into the conversation. It takes a while to get used to it, but once you do,you realise <span> </span>it&#8217;s a friendly and enjoyable conversation topic – rather than some social taboo!</p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:54pt;text-indent:-36pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span><span>2<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><strong>There&#8217;s no English newspapers </strong></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:54pt;">Ok technically you can if you are really desperate buy a copy of the International Herald Tribune and USA Today in a few places, but there is no English daily newspaper in Sao Paulo, quite amazing when you consider ther are 20,000,000 people in the city. Again compared to London where you can get copies of newspapers in almost any language from most news agents.</p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:54pt;text-indent:-36pt;"><span><span>3<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><strong>You can change the language of TV shows </strong></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:54pt;">A nifty feature which is apparently standard on cable TV over here allows you to switch the language of the tv show you are watching, so you can watch M*A*S*H* in Portuguese, Spanish or English, not only can you change the spoken language, you can also change the subtitles language as well – a great tool when you are trying to pick up the local lingo!</p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:54pt;">4<span><span><span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><strong>The </strong><strong>rental </strong><strong>property market is long, long, term&#8230; </strong></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:54pt;">The rental market in SP was a bit of a surprise to us, the normal lease on a rental property is 36 months or longer. If you want to rent for 12 months or less you can&#8217;t rent a regular apartment, you need to rent what is known as a &#8220;flat&#8221;. A flat is usually furnished apartment which is aimed at the short term market, flats are much more expensive than apartments - like double the price of a long term rental property!</p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:54pt;">All long term rental apartments are rented completely empty - i mean completely empty, you need to supply your own fridge, washing maching, cooker and all the furniture. Not much fun in country where all imported appliances have a 60% import duty on them!</p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:54pt;">Another interesting difference in apartments is that most larger apartments have a small bedroom for the maid to sleep in - usually tucked behind the laundry. As most people who can afford to live in an apartment building can also afford a maid, this is a great idea. The maids room does not count toward the bedroom count though - so a three bedroom apartment, could actually have four bedrooms in it.</p>
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		<title>Escape from SP part two, we enjoy the beaches in winter (and get sunburnt)&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last weekend we had another mini adventure outside SP, our gypsy house guests Piero and Ana were still with us (as were the numerous late nights and hangovers that come with them) - so we decided to take them on an adventure and see the beaches to the east of SP.
For those of you who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">Last weekend we had another mini adventure outside SP, our gypsy house guests Piero and Ana were still with us (as were the numerous late nights and hangovers that come with them) - so we decided to take them on an adventure and see the beaches to the east of SP.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For those of you who aren’t up on your Brasilian geography, SP is (unfortunately) not quite on the coast, it&#8217;s pretty close, about 85km from the centre of the city, or about 75km from our place.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/road-to-juquei-praia.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-168" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/road-to-juquei-praia.png?w=300&h=126" alt="" width="300" height="126" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>The drive to Juguehy - half way between SP and Rio.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">As you can imagine with a population of over 20,000,000 in SP, the nearby beaches are very popular. The closest beach is Santos which is also Brasils largest port. We drove through Santos on our drive and it&#8217;s a damn big port, the beaches there are pretty good - <span> </span>but as everyone kept telling us the beaches get better the further you are away from SP. So we headed to Santos then north up the coast. The coast is just beautiful, within 20 minutes of leaving Santos you are in really beautiful seaside towns with beautiful white sand beaches and big inland waterways and lush green rainforest. I was just stunning, we kept going up the coast towards Rio de Janeiro, stopping for quick feijoada lunch beside the beach and eventually stopping at the beach (or Praia) of <a href="http://www.packtours.com.br/dest/saopaulo/juquei/htl/juquehypraia/index.htm"><span style="text-decoration:none;color:#000000;">Juquehy</span></a> or (Juquei depending on where you look). Although there are many lovely beaches along the coast, Juquehy is more spectacular than the rest because it has a large mountain just behind it, so with the jungle like bush even round it&#8217;s even more spectacular! The town itself is also really nice, it seemed quite new and very well kept, it&#8217;s felt quite posh, there were loads of nice hotels apartments and restaurants and bars everywhere.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">We didn’t book any accommodation which is fine now in winter but i would guess not a good idea in the summer months, even though I say “winter” again the weather was magic a nice 24 degrees during the day and lots of sunshine, overnight it was just cold enough to warrant a second layer, so not too bad at all.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">We stayed at <strong><a href="http://www.juqueifrenteaomar.com.br/intro.php">Juquei Hotel Pousada</a></strong> which was perfect as the restaurant was right on the beach, so we just had to cross the road for dinner and breakfast and we could sit right above the beach – after the noise and rush of SP it was just awesome! The hotel describes itself on it&#8217;s website as “the best localisation of the best beach of the Coast North” and whatever that means – we agree!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-012.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-158" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-012.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>The beach at Juquei.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">As soon as we arrived we went for big walk on the beach, the sand was white and clean, the water blue and the surf was good, there was loads of surfers out, and loads of people learning to surf at a couple of surf schools that were running on the beach. The water was just a bit cold for swimming, but only just, I imagine it must be awesome in summer.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-041.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-160" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-041.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>These blokes were not quite sure if was warm enough to actually get under the water.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">Of course because it&#8217;s Brasil the beach is also a place of business, it&#8217;s a bit of a surprise at first as it trading isn’t allowed on the beach in Oz or Nz. But as long as you aren’t pestered too much it makes spending a day at the beach much easier, every few minutes someone will come wandering past with hot corn, cold beer, ghastly sarongs and many other strange and wonderful objects for sale.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-051.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-159" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-051.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>Maybe theres still hope for a last ice cream sale before it gets dark!</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">So we decided to settle down at one of the beer and caiparinha stalls on the beach and enjoy the sunset:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>Beachside bar - now thats civilised!</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-06.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-163 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-06.jpg?w=300&h=200" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>Just a little drink heh Cath?</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-071.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-164 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-071.jpg?w=300&h=200" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>Ana is a bit thirsty after the walk along the beach</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">We had a great seafood dinner in the restaurant, even though the normal standard of seafood we get in SP is very high, it was great to have fresh prawns, fresh octopus and really fresh fish. We sat outside in the restaurant till late at night drinking too much Argentinean wine and eating way too much food.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">On Sunday we had a quiet morning, a breakfast of fresh tropical fruit on the beach and another long walk on along the bay. We then sat and enjoyed the sun for a couple of hours,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">Of course being four gringos we stood out like a sore thumb on the beach, the locals wear slightly less to the beach than we are used to, the gentlemen prefering a nice tight pair of budgie smugglers and the ladies in a brief as possible teeni-kini, here is couple of examples we picked up on this trip to illustrate the topic:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-09.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-165 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-09.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>The classic brasilian budgie smuggler, you can dress &#8216;em up and dress &#8216;emdown!</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-10.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-166 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-10.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>If this isnt enough to put you off your lunch i dont know what is.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-11.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-167 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-11.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>Just remember boys, getting amorous in your smugglers can lead to inconvienient things popping up!</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">So as well as laughing at this couple getting romantic in the sun, we had another great meal, this time grilled fresh fish with toasted coconut, rice and fried bananas while drinking fresh tropical fruit juices – I know it&#8217;s a tough life but someone has to do it! After lunch we headed back to SP, only 175km straight up and over the misty jungle covered mountains and straight home on the motorway.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">Thus finished another top weekend and with adventures like this you see why we are really starting to love living in Sao Paulo!!!</p>
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		<title>Winter in Sao Paulo - clear skys and even more polution</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its now offically winter in SP, and some days its almost cold, well ok, not really its still 24 degrees during the day, but a couple of times in the last few weeks it has gone as low as 14 overnight. This ends up feeling colder than london cos there is no heating in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Its now offically winter in SP, and some days its almost cold, well ok, not really its still 24 degrees during the day, but a couple of times in the last few weeks it has gone as low as 14 overnight. This ends up feeling colder than london cos there is no heating in the flat - so rather than a nice warm centrally heated 20 degrees we end up with a crisp 14 or whatever it is outside.</p>
<p>So with the colder weather, we are also getting more clear skys and less rain, seeing the blue of the sky can be a bit of a shock after months of SP grey, so its very nice to see, the only thing is it brings into stark effect the amount of polution in the air. I took this snap from our place on friday morning last week, and the other one at Fred and Rons farm back in New Zealand just before christmas, as you can see the NZ sky goes from blue to white, while the SP sky goes from blue to brown&#8230;..</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">It can&#8217;t be that bad for us though can it?</p>
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		<title>Another trip downtown, this time with a camera!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week our good friends Pesty and Spanner (aka Piero and Ana) were in town, for those who know and love them they are once again roaming the world and we were lucky enough to host them for a while on their way to Manaus in the middle of the Amazonian rain forest.
Like most people [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">Last week our good friends Pesty and Spanner (aka Piero and Ana) were in town, for those who know and love them they are once again roaming the world and we were lucky enough to host them for a while on their way to Manaus in the middle of the Amazonian rain forest.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Like most people their only experience of SP was a brief stop over at the not so lovely airport, so Greg took them so see some of the sights around town before we headed for the coast for the weekend. Of course no visit to SP is complete without a trip to the <a href="../2008/04/07/the-dance-floo%E2%80%A6t-be-in-brazilthe-dance-floors-full-at-5pm-we-must-be-in-brazil/"><strong>Mercado Municipal</strong></a> to try the awesome bacalhau pastel and our newest treat – some real Brasilian chewing tobacco, which was just as horrible as you imagine it will be.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Piero had his trusty camera with him, so he got these great snaps around the market, the crazy 25<sup>th</sup> of March street and the quite nice if a bit shabby downtown business area which i know you are all dying to see!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-01.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-143" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-01.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="mercardo municpial sao paulo" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">Mercardo municipale</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-01a.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-144" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-01a.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="carving the cod" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">carving the cod - fresh bachlau</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-02.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-145" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-02.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">if this place doesnt make you hungry, you probably have a dodgy south american belly!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-03.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-146" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-03.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">The italian bread man - who wouldnt buy something off this bloke?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-04.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-147" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-04.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">take a break boys, yeah just there is fine&#8230;</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-05.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-148" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-05.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">the very erie abandoned office building across the road from the market</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-06a.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-149" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-06a.jpg?w=230&h=300" alt="" width="230" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">25th of March street - possibly the worlds craziest market - from nasal hair trimmers to samba costumes and carpets..</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-06b.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-150" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-06b.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">brasilians love a bargain!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-07.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-151 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-07.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">Greg and Piero trying to blend in among the locals&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-08.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-152 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-08.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">some of the beautiful buildings in the business district of downtown</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-010.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-153 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-010.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">the beautiful main boulevard</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-011.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-154 aligncenter" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/ana-and-piero-sao-paolo-011.jpg?w=225&h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;">4:00 - the start of the rush hour(s)&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Fogo de Chao – where meat is king and vegetarians fear for their lives&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Newman</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[You know how it is, when someone recommends something as “the best”, “the greatest”, and “amazing” you can be pretty sure that you will end up setting your expectations too high and end up totally disappointed.
Well as soon as we moved to SP (now over five months ago) Fogo de Chao was the restaurant on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>You know how it is, when someone recommends something as “the best”, “the greatest”, and “amazing” you can be pretty sure that you will end up setting your expectations too high and end up totally disappointed.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well as soon as we moved to SP (now over five months ago) Fogo de Chao was the restaurant on everyone’s lips, it’s probably the most famous restaurant in SP (just a little bit more famous than The Outback even) and its main claim to fame is it&#8217;s amazing meat&#8230;..</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now as I am sure our regular readers are aware Brazil is now the largest beef producing country in the world, kicking the beefy butt of Australia and USA and Argentina. But it&#8217;s definitely not the most famous country for beef, chances are if you think about South American beef, you are probably going to think about Argentinean steak, and we had some amazing steak in Buenos Aires, so this place had a lot to live up to.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fogo de Chao is a chain restaurant (which isn’t really the greatest start), but luckily for us, we can walk to one of their SP restaurants, so on a nice quiet Sunday afternoon – with nothing else planned for the rest of the day we strolled over to the restaurant, with the good 5km walk helping us to work up an appetite (see that folks, we walked 5km in SP and weren’t murdered)!!!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The restaurant is massive, it would probably seat 300 people and we luckily arrived just before the lunch time rush. The staff were wearing Brazilian cowboy outfits (ohh shit, it’s getting worse) and there was a massive buffet bar (more points off, it&#8217;s in freefall now).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We sat at our table, and were handed the menu:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/beef-menu1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-137" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/beef-menu1.jpg?w=421&h=825" alt="Fogo de Chao, beef selection" width="421" height="825" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thats it, the whole menu, nothing but meat, meat, meat and meat, suddenly this place looked like it had some potential; there literally was nothing but meat available, no starters, no vegetarian option, just meat, unlimited amounts of meat!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now most people have been to an all you can eat restaurant before, but I have never been to an all you can eat restaurant that serves the quality of meat that they do here. Instead of bringing you an individual piece of meat, the waiters are continually walking around the restaurant with giant cuts of meat, cooked and served the traditional Brazilian cowboy (Gaucho) way:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/steak-the-gaucho-way.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-138" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/steak-the-gaucho-way.jpg?w=330&h=504" alt="" width="330" height="504" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For those of you (like me) who aren’t that informed on traditional Brazilian bbq techniques, the tradition started when the gauchos were out on the range, they developed a simple way of cooking large chunks of meat, skewered on mega skewers (more like a swords) that were slowly roasted over the embers of the fire, something like this:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So imagine this (and if your mouth doesn’t start watering there is something wrong with you – like you’re a vegetarian or you may be dead) the restaurant is full of blokes wandering around carrying around massive pieces of perfectly cooked bits of beef – and I mean massive, the steaks on the skewers are all three or four inches thick and each skewer has a range of cookedness - from rare to well done, so you can choose it just the way you like it! As well as 16 separate cuts of beef on parade, they also have a couple of cuts of lamb, half roasted chickens, grilled chicken hearts, roast pork and a variety of sausages&#8230;.. And the food just keeps coming, they use an ingenious traffic light/drinks coaster system to control the flow of meat:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/yes-please1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-140" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/yes-please1.jpg?w=338&h=331" alt="" width="338" height="331" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center">Please Keep it coming&#8230;.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/no-thanks1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-141" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/no-thanks1.jpg?w=331&h=340" alt="" width="331" height="340" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center">My heart has stopped, please stop/resuscitate!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So you just sit down, order a bottle of Brazilian red wine (that&#8217;s a whole ’nother post), loosen your belt off a bit, switch your coaster to green and let the meat feast begin&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Each of the different cuts has a different taste, you can grab a few slices of each and compare the different flavours, from the marbled sweetness of the hump, to the straight lean meat of the fillet mignon and my favourite the “ancho” <span> </span>- a cut like a rib eye, with a good mix or marble and lean meat. All of the meat is cooked to perfection, sure in the Brazilian way it&#8217;s loaded with salt, but heh this isn’t a restaurant the heart foundation was likely to approve anyway, so in for a penny in for a pound!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The great thing about the traffic light system is you can control the flow of food, take a 15 minute break, enjoy some more red wine a couple of polenta chips (another topic worthy of it&#8217;s own post) and generally relax, if you have had enough beef you can switch to lamb for a while, choose between slices off a roasted leg of lamb, or a rack of lamb chops, then some delicious bbq chicken and a dozen grilled chicken hearts (yet another Brazilian treat). As well there is a salad bar, but bloody hell, that salad is just taking up space that meat could be filling in your belly!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So yes, there are lots of other restaurants in Sao Paulo that specialise in preparing Brazilian bbq or <em>churrasco</em>, and now we have been to a couple of others but I have to say, if you have the choice start with the best, Fogo de Chao is one of those places that definitely lives up to its reputation!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.fogodechao.com/">http://www.fogodechao.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Getting tired of the city, the smoke, the traffic, the rush, the crush? Why not take a break in the Brazilian mountains - in a mock Swiss Village?!?!?!?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Newman</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[Living in Sao Paulo]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[brazil]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Gol]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Monte Verde]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Pousada das Montanhas]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Living in a city can be a drag, living in one of the world’s biggest cities can be a really big drag, so with a four day weekend this weekend we took the chance to go away and see some of the countryside. But choosing where to go in the fifth biggest country in the world isn’t easy, we got lots of suggestions from friends and workmates, but in the end we were intrigued by a little village called Monte Verde, apparently the closest thing to an Swiss mountain village outside Switzerland and only 170km from Sao Paulo – this was too good to miss out on, or was that too good to be true?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Living in a city can be a drag, living in one of the world’s biggest cities can be a really big drag, so with a four day weekend this weekend we took the chance to go away and see some of the countryside. But choosing where to go in the fifth biggest country in the world isn’t easy, we got lots of suggestions from friends and workmates, but in the end we were intrigued by a little village called Monte Verde, apparently the closest thing to an Swiss mountain village outside Switzerland and only 170km from Sao Paulo – this was too good to miss out on, or was that too good <em>to be true?</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The story behind the village is that apparently the area was settled by migrants from Europe, who decided it would be the perfect mountain retreat, so they built buildings resembling those built where they came from. The truth is that it is a relatively new town, with many purpose built buildings that are indeed in a “European” style, but they are very much designed with tourists in mind. We knew this before we went to Monte Verde so we weren’t disappointed when we got there, but I think people who make the journey expecting to be transported to the mountains of Europe may be disappointed.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So it&#8217;s about 170km from our house so we had to hire a car, the cheapest car you can hire in Brazil is something called a VW Gol – not Golf, just Gol , it&#8217;s the bestselling car in Brazil and a rugged little beast, though not very pretty it&#8217;s cheap as chips (a new four door model is only about £8,000) and it&#8217;s built just for the South American market specifically to handle Brazilian roads<span> </span>(80% of which are not sealed – or even graded as we found out).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-01.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-123" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-01.jpeg?w=420&h=261" alt="" width="420" height="261" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>The super Gol</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So we headed off Thursday at 2pm with our trusty driving directions printed off Google maps. The instructions we had were relatively simple and for our first time driving in Brazil we were pretty chuffed to get out on the motorway where our instructions simply said travel for 127km then take exit for Um Street. We thought that was street name was pretty funny as we tootled along the motorway at 120km/hr in our 1.0 litre beast. When we got to the 127km mark we couldn’t see any turn offs so we carried on for another 20km and still no turn off as described, but we then reached the next town we quickly realised that instead of heading north for 140 odd kms we had got on the wrong motorway as soon as we left Sao Paulo and instead headed 140km east!!!!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Never ones to panic we quickly checked our map (better late than never heh) we worked out we could head across the mountains in a north westish direction and we could get to Monte Verde without going back to SP again. Looked nice and simple on the map, we could zoom through some nice mountain roads, along a short stretch of gravel road and still make it in time for dinner – or so we thought! The motorways we had driven on so far were fine roads, but as soon as you step off the major roads the quality of roads and signs drops away quickly, as we discovered. So we winded our way through the hills, the rain started to pour down and we quickly realised we weren’t going to be able to average any real speeds, after a couple of hours we finally got to the point where we could nip cross country on the dirt road. Not finding any signs for Monte Verde we stopped at a petrol station to ask for directions, the guy at the desk thought we were comedians and laughed at the suggestion, he told us the road didn’t even exist anymore and we had to take a big detour on the sealed road to another dirt road which would cut us across the mountains. Another hour passed and we reach the point of our next cunning plan, by now having been scared enough driving on the sealed roads, with massive foot deep potholes, completely washed out sections and long section of those corrugations that make you feel like visiting the dentist we started to lose courage regarding our “short cut”.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Again we stopped for directions at a taxi rank in the middle of a cute little town, again the locals thought we were nuts and advised us to take another even longer detour north to rejoin the main north south motorway where we could then drive back towards Sao Paulo and onto Monte Verde. By now we were really starting to doubt if we were ever going to make it, but after another couple of hours crawling through the hills we finally got to motorway and zoomed down towards our turn off.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now the road from the motorway to the town is about 37km long, this bit alone took us over an hour due to the even more terrible condition of the road, we constantly had to zig and zag across the road to get around the massive pot holes and wash outs. But I am happy to announce that after eight hours of driving we finally made it to Monte Verte!!!!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-02.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-124" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-02.jpg?w=359&h=538" alt="" width="359" height="538" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>A Brazilian road just like the ones we drove on</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-03.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-125" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-03.png?w=300&h=146" alt="" width="300" height="146" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>The red route is our actual route, the blue one our planned route</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So we stayed at the excellent <span> </span><a href="http://www.montanhasmonteverde.com.br/"><strong>Pousada das Montanhas</strong></a> a couple of Kilometres from the centre of town. Our accommodation was really lovely, cute little chalets, had great breakfast, but most importantly had we had a massive open fire place in our room which was great, cos it was cold. <span> </span>Ok before you all start, we have just come from London, so we know what real cold is, but for Brazilians this was about as cold as it gets. Overnight it dropped to as low as 10 degrees.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-04.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-126" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-04.jpg?w=450&h=300" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;"><strong>Our Chalet</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So Monte Verde itself is pretty interesting and entertaining, it&#8217;s basically one long main street (the only sealed street in the town) the street is lined with Swiss and Austrian style buildings.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-05.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-127" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-05.jpg?w=450&h=300" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>The main street of Monte Verde</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-06.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-128" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-06.jpg?w=450&h=356" alt="" width="450" height="356" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>One of the &#8220;typical&#8221; buildings on the main street.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span>Lots of the accommodation places are also built in that style as well. We also a saw a beautiful <strong><a href="http://www.huf-haus.com/de/08_01_haus_01.html">Huf House</a> </strong>tucked away in one of the valleys, that really was the last thing we expected to see in Brazil (and Gregs dream house). The town isn’t like a real town, there is no supermarket or anything useful like that, just lots of shops selling the usual touristy stuff, tour operator offering quad bike safaris and horse treks, but what was quite funny (to us at least) was that it actually felt like a real European mountain ski village because everyone was dressed as if it was about to snow! I suppose if you are used to SP and Rios’ constant heat it is pretty cold up there, but come on, do you really need ugg boots, scarves, beanies and gloves when it&#8217;s 15 degrees? The food in the very touristy restaurants was also tailored to the “cold” with all of them offering hot chocolate, soups and cheese or chocolate fondues, and everyone was lapping them up.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Overall it was great fun, the place is cheesy as hell, but a real nice change from SP, so we will probably end up coming back here again, or maybe just to one of the nearby towns without the European feel (and prices)!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The weather was terrible the whole time we were there, with constant rain turning the dirt roads into mud baths – luckily no trouble to our little Gol. But by Saturday we had had enough of playing 500 by the roaring fire while the rain bucketed down outside, so we decided to climb one of the nearby mountains. Sure it was raining, blowing a gale and the low cloud meant that we couldn’t actually see anything, but we headed up one of the mountains anyway.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-071.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-130" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-071.jpg?w=450&h=299" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>The (lack of) view from Bishops Peak</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong> </strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-08.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-131" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/monte-verde-08.jpg?w=450&h=300" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><strong>Cath enjoying the stiff breeze</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So now we are back in SP, we made the return journey in a much less painful three hours, and today I bought myself a decent Brazilian road atlas, hopefully we won’t be making that mistake again!</p>
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		<title>Feeling like you are one in a million&#8230; Anzac day and being part of a minority ethnic group in Sao Paulo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure I may have been out of New  Zealand since 1996 and Cath out of Australia since 2001, but living in Australia and then London, you never really feel like a foreigner. But coming to live in Sao Paulo, we were suddenly and dramatically thrown into being foreigners. Where in London you hear a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Sure I may have been out of New  Zealand since 1996 and Cath out of Australia since 2001, but living in Australia and then London, you never really <em>feel</em> like a foreigner. But coming to live in Sao Paulo, we were suddenly and dramatically thrown into <em>being</em> foreigners. Where in London you hear a kiwi or aussie accent every day – in a pub, on a bus or on the tube, at least once a day you would always hear a familiar accent, but since we have been in South America, apart from our friends and people at Caths work, you can go days or even weeks without hearing anyone speaking English, and we have only ever heard one other Australian accent since we have been here, a random bloke from Sydney who had just spent six weeks tramping in the very south of Argentina.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Never hearing English spoken is a great help when it comes to learning Portuguese, we are slowly picking up bits and pieces of the language, but its not easy, the printed word is much easier than the spoken word, but its still a hard job learning another language.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So given our “isolation”<span> </span>from our fellow country men and women, when we got an email invite to the joint Australian and New Zealand embassies ANZAC day dinner, we jumped at the chance to immerse ourselves in our native cultures. We invited Zoe and Luccas – our resident QLDer and her Brazilian better half, and made a date – that date of course being Friday the 25<sup>th</sup> of April, and the location being the very swanky Grand Hyatt hotel.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So the hotel is only 6km from our house, and the start time was 8pm, so we got ready into our bestest outfits and jumped in a taxi, allowing 45 minutes to travel six kilometres may sound a bit excessive, but it is Sao Paulo on a Friday night, so we left a good amount of time. We got in the cab at 7:15 and 1 hour 45 minutes later we had travelled about 4 kilometres, the whole of Sao Paulo was in grid lock, there was a ring of stationary traffic stretching 10kms from the city centre and tail backs on the motorways into and out of town stretching up to 45kms.<span> </span>All around us stress levels were starting to rise, people were driving the wrong way down one way roads, motorbikes were streaming down the footpaths, and people were standing beside their cars, stuck in the middle of eight lanes of stationary cars. So with the clock ticking we were left with no option but to walk.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now if we were in London or down under, we would never hesitate at the thought of walking 2km in the evening, but in Sao Paulo the idea is about as strange as walking on the moon, people just don’t walk around in the dark, its not safe, its not sensible and its bloody scary. Sure some people do walk around after dark, but they are generally only doing it because they are too poor to catch public transport, so the image of two gringos, one in a suit, tie and shiny shoes and a blonde bombshell in a cocktail dress walking through the not so nice parts of the city must have raised some eye brows. But heh, this was our chance to drink free kiwi and aussie wine and eat some real kiwi lamb, so we were desperate! We ended up arrive at 9:15, two hours after leaving home. We arrived just in time to hear poor Luccas (the lone brazilian in the room) singing the Brazilian national anthem, and then for the first time in many years (apart from sporting events) Greg and Cath took turns to join in the singing of the Australian and new Zealand national anthems. This was followed by speeches from the Australian and New Zealand ambassadors on ANZAC day and what it means to our countries, it was made even more poignant knowing that Gregs brother Joel had been among the crowds of Aussies and Kiwis at ANZAC cove earlier that day.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The dinner was lovely, and the Spy Valley sav blanc and big aussie red went down a treat, a starter of fresh Australian prawns and a main of New Zealand lamb, were a nice change to the beef focused diet we enjoy in Sao Paulo.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">After the dinner there was lots of mingling and chatting i think there were about 60 or so guests, everyone was dressed to the nines, and either an Aussie or Kiwi or married to one, we had a great night talking to lots of Aussies and Kiwis, some of whom had been here for decades, and lots of others like us who are much more recent arrivals.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We were amazed to learn talking to Embassy staff that they estimated that there were only about 75 Australians and 55 New Zealanders in Sao Paulo, its no wonder we don’t hear familiar accents very often, we are totally lost in the population of 20,000,000 in Sao Paulo. They think there are about 200 Aussies spread over Brazil, and only about 100 New Zealand passport hodlers, we were also surprised to learn that only about 2,000 Australians visit Brazil any year, so we really are a rare minority group over here!</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Greg and Cath dressed up to the nines&#8230;</p>
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		<title>live naked flesh auctions, lasers, smoke machines, a podium, a cage, a dodgy MC, terrible music and of course cows?!?!?!? It must be late night TV Brazilian style</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every day we are here, we learn a little bit more about Brazil, late last night for example we switched over to Canal Rural, one of the many local channels (we have four channels solely dedicated to religion alone) to see what looked like a combination of a strip club and a rotary club dinner, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Every day we are here, we learn a little bit more about Brazil, late last night for example we switched over to Canal Rural, one of the many local channels (we have four channels solely dedicated to religion alone) to see what looked like a combination of a strip club and a rotary club dinner, a large room was full of tables of blokes dining and drinking, at the front of the room was a large podium, with a cage around it, the room was full of loud music, laser lighting and a lot of smoke and the crowd was pretty excited, of course this had to be something dodgy didn’t it, well it was in fact a live cattle auction. As well as the people there attending, you could also phone in and bid, I was of course  tempted, but given the size of our flat I didn’t think that we really had room for  family of Brahman cattle beasts. At least it means that Brazilians are going to be among the few other nations in the world that would understand how come “a dog show” could make it onto TV in New Zealand.</p>
<p>So we have been a bit quiet on the blog front for the last couple of weeks, Greg has been focusing on writing his book, which has somewhat taken away the urge to write for fun, but with a long weekend over here and our adventure plans cancelled at the last minute, I now find myself with some time on my hands. So here’s a quick recap of what we have been up to:</p>
<p>Last weekend we headed down to Buenos Aires to watch our friend Robert Lindstedt play in the Davis cup tie between Sweden and Argentina, now we don&#8217;t need much excuse to visit BA, it&#8217;s one our favourite cities in the world, but we also got the chance this time to celebrate/disrupt the Olympic torch which was a great bonus.<br />
So Greg went and watched the first days play on Friday while Cath worked in the BA office, now the only other time Greg has seen live tennis was watching Robert play in the very civilised atmosphere of Wimbledon, these games turned out to be somewhat different, the Argentines’ hadn’t  lost a single match at home in the last five years of Davis Cup, and after spending some time there I think I know why, they have a 15,000 person tennis stadium, and every day there was at least 10,000 argies there, they acted like they were at a soccer match which was great, continually yelling, chanting and screaming, we joined in the very small Swedish supporters group (about 20 of us) but any attempt at a chant or a song was quickly drowned out by the Argentinean supporters, there screaming and yelling was continuous, even the umpires couldn’t shut them up.</p>
<p>So after watching some tennis on Friday I headed down town to try and get amongst the action at the torch relay, now let me explain my politics here, I fully support the Olympic movement, and the right of athletes to compete, but I also think if you are stupid enough to want to host the Olympics, you better make sure you have clean underpants on first, because the whole world is going to be watching. I also think that any non sporting part of the Olympics is fair game for protesting and point raising, so I was glad to get the chance to join in the free Tibet protestors during the torch relay. After watching the “events” in Britain, France and USA, I thought the argies may have clamped down on things when their moment in the spot light came around, but I didn’t expect it to be as heavy handed as it was, it appears that the argentian police don&#8217;t focus on the same sort of community policing that we are used to, they more fancied batons and motorbikes as crowd clearing tools. Groups of pro Tibet and Falungong supporters were forcibly dispersed by the police, anyone who waved a Tibet flag or any type of protest was quickly dragged away, and groups of people who congregated to protest were quickly dispersed by groups of police or pro china supporters. As you can see in this shot, by the time the Olympic torch actually arrived, there was no chance of anyone getting through the five lines of protection that the torch had surrounding it.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong> The great celebration of Olympic spirit (and police brute force)</strong></p>
<p>I have to say though, if China feels a little uncomfortable with people invading it&#8217;s parade, imagine how the Tibetans felt when China invaded their country&#8230; I did join a group of mainly English backpackers in chanting free Tibet for a brief period of time, but we were again quickly dispersed by a large mob of pro china supporters, these people were a bit of comedy in themselves, nothing says organic community based support like having absolutely everyone wearing matching red jackets now does it?</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/the-uniform-wearing-chinese-supporters1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-114" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/the-uniform-wearing-chinese-supporters1.jpg?w=450&h=300" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>Pro china supporters – I wonder who funded these smashing jackets?</strong></p>
<p>But it was great to see people making their protests in their own way – something that is just not possible in Tibet:</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>Libre Tibet!</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong></strong><br />
So after that adventure I caught up with Cath and we headed out for another beautiful feast of Argentinean meat, after this trip there is no doubt, they have the best beef in the world&#8230;.<br />
Saturday we went to watch Robert play his doubles game with Jonas Bjorkman against the fairly impressive pairing of Guillermo Canas and David Nalbandian and 10,000 of their supporters. Though Robert had a great game, it didn’t go their way, and they went down to the Argies 5-7, 4-6, 4-6. Here are some shots of Robert and Jonas in the game:</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-011.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-116" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-011.jpg?w=450&h=442" alt="" width="450" height="442" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-021.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-117" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-021.jpg?w=450&h=332" alt="" width="450" height="332" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>Robert Lindstedt<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-061.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-118" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-061.jpg?w=450&h=327" alt="" width="450" height="327" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>Robert and Jonas</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-071.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-119" src="http://gregandcathsadventures.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/robert-lindstedt-071.jpg?w=450&h=381" alt="" width="450" height="381" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>And you think you had a bad day at work, imagine this feeling&#8230;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">On the Sunday we headed back to SP, where we are now, enjoying a nice quiet long weekend at home in BA, but planning our next set of adventures.<br />
A quick update on work from us both, Caths work continues to go great, she is making a name for herself over here and already delivering some great results in LatAm, I think there is a good chance they will try and adopt her at the end of the 6 months. Gregs book continues to roll along, with 100 of the 350 pages submitted, Greg is realising  just how hard it is to write a book, the first chapter was a complete nightmare, but now he is settled into something of a rhythm, so hopefully the chapters will start to flow a bit faster!<br />
That&#8217;s all for now. Over and out of here.<br />
Lots of love,<br />
Greg and Cath</p>
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